Curse

Vahn Roi · Sep 14, 2006, 04:27 PM // 16:27

Did they hit her in the face with a baseball bat?

Tommy · Sep 14, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29

your monk actually looks more pretty after the update....

moriz · Sep 14, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29

i don't notice much difference...

Crush · Sep 14, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29

my tyrian ele and war changed a bit too, but nothing really scary

Tommy · Sep 14, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34

the monk looks abit baby-fat before the update. Her face is longer and more pretty imao aftet the update:0 Cheer!

DarkWasp · Sep 14, 2006, 04:42 PM // 16:42

Personaly I'm liking ALL of these face changes. (Well except that vampire ranger one, but all they need to do to that is mess with the alphas)

The characters are looking more real, and one of the rits has a constant open mouth (looks more detalied now), I guess face animations are comming then.

Rhedd · Sep 14, 2006, 04:43 PM // 16:43

While I really never approve of changing an existing character's appearance- even slightly- I think I can shed some light on some of these questions.

Not to brag, but simply to state a relevant fact, I build character models for a living. (Unreal Tournament 2003/4, Hellgate:London, etc., etc.) It's a living. ^_^

The post-update models have new, higher-resolution textures. In some cases, these seem to have been actually edited, slightly, but the ones that I looked at were essentially the same. Some things like lips and eyes looked darker or crisper, just because they aren't being blurred by the low res anymore.

My Ranger, for instance, has more distinct lines under her eyes. It's a noticable difference, but they were always there, just softened by the low res map.

As for the oddities that people like Rafal have noticed, that seems to be because the head models are all-new, higher resolution (In polygons, not pixels, like the textures) versions. I would assume, as has been stated, that this is due to upcoming facial animation.

Unfortunately, lighting artifacts like these are just unavoidable, sometimes. In many game engines (which are all perfectly lovely), a low-res model will actually light smoother and better than a higher detailed one. It's a very complex trick to build a higher poly model with all the polys perfectly arranged so as not to form any artifacts under ANY lighting conditions, and it's different for every game engine out there.

As a modeler, I don't like it either, but I think Anet has done quite a good job, from what I've looked at so far. Unfortunately, it's a tradeoff you have to live with, for moving mouths.

The "vampire/werewolf" Ranger is very poorly lighted in that shot, and really doesn't look as bad as people are making out. Now, I'm certainly not going to defend the change, and I'm 100% behind the player if they don't appreciate the edit to their character, but the screenshot is still misleading. Go into the character creation and see for yourself. Bottom face, far right column, I believe.

Now, about the Mesmer's neck gap, I have NO excuses or reasons. Take the modeler outside, whip him with a stout green switch a few times, then sit him in a corner and make him fix it. ^-^

TheMadKingGeorge · Sep 14, 2006, 04:58 PM // 16:58

i have 1.5k fiels to download for urgoz warren before i see my necro

TheMadKingGeorge · Sep 14, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59

BTW Cant Wait Till I Get Hellgate London

moriz · Sep 14, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59

that monk looks a bit like Wm Berry...

lyra_song · Sep 14, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by broodijzer

before:

after:

scary..

same face .-. higher res version/edited colors

Electric Sky · Sep 14, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03

the new face changes are a bit more realistic than before

/edit - of course not all of them, "ranger/werewolf" look lol

Amity and Truth · Sep 14, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13

Bad lighting or not, anyone mind telling me where the arm of my monk is going?

This one is even more annoying as it occurs with every fricking step my monk does in that armor combo (used for 605 ing). It's actually going even further up, like the whole arm is floating at the height of the monk's ears and is only kept by an overstretched skintexture. It's hard to capture it though due to fast movement.

/edit:
And this one DOES have FOW - no way i'm going to remake him.

Big_Iron · Sep 14, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Hey Rhedd, you doing UT 2007? When that comes out, all my other gaming worlds will come to an end

Sorry for straying off topic.

prism2525 · Sep 14, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39

my female ele now looks like a freak

Renegade26 · Sep 14, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

I had to sign into the Guild Hall!!!

Saraphim · Sep 14, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49

Rhedd is spot on. I'm not a character modeller, but I do 3d modelling for a living and higher poly models do tend to gather more smoothing errors than lower ones.

My female ele now has a five o'clock shadow... which is a bit disturbing.

Not hugely bothered though my other toons (all darker skinned) look much, much better.

Big_Iron · Sep 14, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saraphim

My female ele now has a five o'clock shadow... which is a bit disturbing.

Oh man! I'm almost afraid to log on and look now.

King's Spectre · Sep 14, 2006, 05:59 PM // 17:59

Seems like now would be a good time for that face change / hair stylist NPC..

Caged Fury · Sep 14, 2006, 05:59 PM // 17:59

I've just checked all my characters and all my girls look just fine...umm..tbh I can't remember what they actually looked like before the update

But hey, they look very pretty.